Since a lot of items (supercapitals, etc) are only available on contracts, how does it determine isk values for such things?

Will they go out to everyone on the mail and will we be able to look at other players records. Or is it just an update of the current system.

Looks really good. How far are you with this and Full Battlereports? Can you give and ETA for when we be able to see this on SiSi/TQ?

+1 for kill info revamp! Any possibility that we'll get logistics into the involved parties?

Two requests:

1) For killmail time, please go to seconds, I think this one should be reasonable?
2) I've been told this is less reasonable, but having X,Y,Z coordinates of where in the system the kill took place would be awesome. Give us that and I'm confident the players will find amazing things to do with it.

I like it a lot better than the current killmails though!

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12761765 :)))

Any plans of making a "smaller" version. In your screenshot you would have to scroll to view the entire fit. This for me seems like an awful design feature. An idea could be that the fit window is the same size as the Fitting Management Window's. The Icons are pretty, but they don't really serve anything usefull, except being there and using up alot of UI space.
The same goes with the Involved parties list. Where something like the compact local/chatchannels would be really nice.

So in short, Less Images and Smaller, so more info is accessable.

CCP Tuxford said this would be quite easy to implement for you. :)

I like it, but I instantly thought of something that might be missing (unless I just didn't notice it): Show to sovereignty of the system at the time of the kill, e.g. to allow one to see whether it happened while attacking or defending.

Where will the Total Loss price info be pulled from?

You might want to recap in which order exactly a bunch of related killmails happen.

Speaking of which - will there be any way of getting to related killmails / batlle reports?

Just one question... Where do you get the market value from?

average regional market prices maybe? (that won't work everywhere)

Does that mean, that non-market items(Stuff that is only sellable via contract), won't be counted?

That's great for wars - but how about random small-gang encounters when there isn't a war involved?

I'd prefer not having to setup a wardec in the middle of a fight, just to get a decent battle report ;-)

CCP PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

Can you PLEASE add the ability to link killmail in chats etc... that would be wicked!!!!!!!!!!! I'd love to be able to just link the kill in chat and have it show ingame that would be awesome!

I really hope there adding this with this new system, the whole supers self destructing crap needs to spawn a killmail if it has active damage from people within the last X time or since the last jump whatever

Awesome! But srsly.... WHAT TOOK YOU SO LONG?

When are you going to do the next logical step and create an official and unfakeable killboard to integrate with evegate?
With all the bells and whistles. Alliance startpages, corporation startpages, personal startpages.
Social functions like (eg. a MOCK-Button) to post this failmail on the forums... ?

So all the poor players working as KB admins for their corps and alliances will be spared of constant updating and restarting their PHP servers and updating DB dumps when module names get changed again and again.

Please!

If the combat log tab stays the same, and you only see this new crap when you choose to and open up a kill's details, then I don't care.

For example, the compact lists in chats was like the best feature ever.

I took another look back at the devblog by CCP SoniClover here and the image that was posted here as a mockup of the new system. Now this first mockup is pretty much a direct facelift of the current system we have with EDK, and the new concept posted by CCP Punkturis is a very nicely slimmed down version (credit to whoever was on that job, someone in the art/design team?) to make it look less confusing to the average player..

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I'd like to second this. The compact list, as simple a feature though it may seem, has been a HUGE improvement for me and many others.

The changes you guys did here are nice, but for the most part you are just doing what third parties (battle clinic and eve kill) already do. Your not really adding much - if anything.

IMO It woule be better if you did things that actually made the killmail data more accruate. Like:

1)Add Logistics
2) add off grid boosters
3) If I make through a battle cruiser gate camp and jump through a gate with 2% structure and a crow on the other side finishes me off, the killmail should not say it was a solo kill from the crow.
4) fix allot of the bad information on killmails. Like who did what damage. Someone who did 0% damage should not have given the final blow.
5) Help third party killboards by providing the name changes you make in an easy to access way. I Haven't been able to post to Amarr militia killboard in over a month because of the minor name changes you keep making. Please make it easy for third party killboards to update their databases.

Will dropped implants be shown in the kill report on destroyed pods?

Will kills currently in the system (ie, all pre-Inferno kills) be viewable in the new KR format after Inferno launches?

Is there any plans to show each module price in the kill report and not just the final total? It would be nice to see the difference in the values in items dropped versus items destroyed.

Also ya since this is a report now and not a kill mail, any chance everyone who is on the report can get it added to there list of kills?

Regarding why it would be nice to have the Seconds on the Kill Report:

I think you missed the reply:

May I just say, Fail Fit Erebus. = P

The kill reports on the first Dev Blog looked much better. http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=28542 I liked how you could see where in the system the person died and how it showed the layout. Plus it seemed like the images and fonts are much smaller / more compact.

Hell yeah!!

It MUST be easy to do: the aggro mechanics show that the system already knows... All that is needed is to send this info down to the killmails!

Hej CCP, when you messing with kill mails/reports take a look on making them more accurate, there is no weapon type: Unknown in game, also there is no ship type: Unknown in game, also there is not possible to Ship use itself as weapon, or Tempests shooting with Machariels, and so on... just saying.

Besides, that isn't what this dev blog (and therefore thread) is about. It has already been stated that no changes have been made to the killmail system with the new UI, and yet people still continue to ask for such changes in this thread.

I am sure they are perfectly aware of the issues surrounding killmails.

No thank you! We are very glad about this stuff (and it does looks so much more awesome than just *wall of text*). To be quite honest this is one of the things I'm looking forward to the most (together with and as part of the wardec revamp). Nicely seized opportunity there!

Aw how cute. You allow your space bros to name your blogs. Your space bros who have prompted you to join their team. To join PL. Which is highly not allowed. Am I right? CCP employees have to be anonymous in game? Right? Yet the open urgings to join them continue. Hilarious. It's t-20 all over.

Sorry if it was answered before, but is there any chance we get in-game killboards with that? Seems to me that the War Reports + Kill Reports... So close...

Thanks

Well I wasn't proposing this as a new idea, pretty dang sure you guys had thought about it beforehand :P

Thanks for the answer!

Whit the new kill report system will logis show up on them if they have reped people in the fight ?

As everything eve pvp related is measured in kills it wood help us logi pilotes alot.

It would be tremendously useful if CCP would publish an XML API of the prices used to calculate the kill values.

To prevent issues with the market getting too perfect of information, it should work off a 7-day or 30-day moving average and only publish a single number for each item.

Bonus points if you can tie that valuation into the "Base Value" button in the Contracts UI. Or add the ability for the Assets window to sort based on total value by station.

How likely are we to see an official CCP leader board based on the kill reports?

When is this going live?